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Old 07-29-2010, 08:34 AM   #251
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View Post Originally Posted by suneshin3
Wow. Reading pages back, i'd like to give in a say too. In the beginning i didn't pay much attention to this, but now id like to say a few things.

It would be extremely difficult to list all the donts and do's , because there will always be new ones right around the corner. If you are part of the GE, and you look to some really old GE's , things were so much different when people posted-- now it is more organized and easier. It is the same with everything! Today, we may be able to post one thing, and the staff may decide tomorrow we should no longer post that. People should respect their decisions, as they are meaningful and have reasons behind them.

A couple days ago, i was looking around the internet at other forums. A lot of you simply don't understand how lucky you are to be a part of this community. Other forums let TEENAGERS run their sites. The mods/admins can be 13 years old! That's crazy, because the truth is, at 13 you are unable to make reasonable and meaningful decisions . Here at WI, we are blessed to have so many wonderful mods & admins. Did you know that every one of them had a background check? Justin doesn't just pick names out of a hat when he feels the site could use an extra helping hand. That's not the way it works here at WI.

I don't want to be rude, but there are a lot of complaints of people saying rules are getting stricter, and this is no fun anymore. You are not forced to stay, you are not forced to leave. What you choose to do is your decision. But if you're thinking of quitting, go do a quick google search. Look at some other forums. Do you really think you will be as welcome there?

I cannot stress enough that these mods, there admins, they are here for YOU. YOU , YOU, AND ONLY YOU! They are here to keep this site safe for YOU. To keep it fun for YOU. And what do some people give them in return? Well, some people say incredibly rude things about them through pms, which i unfortunately have seen. Some people bash them. Some people yell at them. Those people, are just not using their common sense. Mods and admins have spent so much time trying to make this site fun and safe for everyone, so please don't go get mad at them. Do you really think it's easy running this forum? Do you have any idea how many members there are? I doubt that even one person on this thread would be able to run a site like this without making a few mistakes here and there.

WI is a place for people ranging from ages 7 and up. This is NOT the place to ask for advice on yuor boyfriend, or other things like that . There are many other sites out there, guidance counsellors, therapists, who can help you if you really need it. Please don't post it here, because frankly , once it's viewed by the wrong eyes, deleting the thread and banning the member doesnt makeit go away.



Not exactly sure if you are siding with the person who posted this thread, or not. The mods had every reason to delete that thread. On WI, nobody is superior. Nobody is more important. The winners were chosen fairly, and that is that.

Now, back to the rules. Like myself and many have said, it would be so difficult to write out all the do's and don'ts. People can really just use their common sense. If they post something wrong, the mods or admins will delete it. I am pretty sure they won't ban you if you didn't know. They're not like that.

One last thing-- RESPECT. Im sure everyone has noticed lately respect for other members has been going down the drain. Im not just talking about one incident. There are many things going on by pm , vm , dcts, and its just sick. If you cannot respect someone, please dont say anything . It is said in the rules to respect other members, you all agreed to it when you joined. I don't see what is the need to swear in pms. You all know it will get starred. Yet, ive seen so many people do it. It is ridiculous what my pm box is full of.

To conclude this, you are always going to have people you dont like. You go to a new job , you may not get along with other employees. But are you going to throw a fit, call them bad names, and get fired ? I sure hope not! You need to learn to cope with people you dislike. Respect the disliked. Treat them normal. Because at the end of the day, we're all people. We're all the same, just different.
Wow, Sunny, you put that PERFECTLY. If this doesn't convince anyone, nothing will.
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:34 AM   #252
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View Post Originally Posted by softballipod
I was going to type up a paragraph explaining what this says. If you work really hard on a forum keeping people safe and all they do is complain, I would feel pretty upset.

no, I don't think we should talk about friends advice. like sunshin3 said, there are parents, therapists, guidance counselors to help you out instead of random people you've never met on the internet! I certainly wouldn't ask anyone on the internet about family/ friends advice because to me, that's TOO personal.
Yes, i would too. I really feel for the WI staff. They are os hardworking, geneerous and kind. Not only the staff, the members too! 24 touring vans? All donated? WI is such a great community, what more can you really ask for?
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:37 AM   #253
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Like I said before,

View Post Originally Posted by kittycats10
Dear WI Members,

I simply do not agree that WI's rules are too strict. I think all of WI's rules are good and necessary. We do need to protect the younger users here, and rules are the only way that can happen. Without the rules, people would post bad things willy-nilly all over the site, thereby contaminating it. How would you feel if a young child saw something scary or inappropriate here, and he had nightmares about it? It is for this reason that the staff has rules on what kinds of threads can be posted.

You have to remember that the purpose of WI is mainly on Webkinz. Webkinz is a children's website, which attracts the attention of teens and adults alike. But because Webkinz is directed to younger audiences, WI needs to keep its posts in check. It is our job as children, teens, and young adults to respect our elders, and follow their rules. Maybe we don't agree with all the rules, but they are still necessary. Take for example a child begging for ice cream after his bedtime. His parents, of course, wouldn't let him have it because they do need him to sleep that night. At the time he might cry, throw a fit, and think it's unfair, but when he is older, he'll look back and see that his parents' rules were good and necessary. This is like the rules on WI. Maybe you don't agree with them now, but in the long run, you might look back and agree with me, the staff, and many other members that they are rules worthy to be followed.

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Old 07-29-2010, 08:43 AM   #254
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View Post Originally Posted by Justin
We closed all their other threads, except this one, because we thought there were concerns still being raised by many of the participants in the thread. We liked how you were working out the reasons behind our rules amongst yourselves, realizing that the rules are in place for a good reason. We felt that if we didn't let you work it out yourselves, you might walk away thinking that we just didn't care anymore about your concerns since we banned the OP for other reasons.

To address your other question, I'm not sure. When I originally read the thread and brought it to the staff's attention, I thought it was created out of a genuine concern for the WI community. Now, I'm not so sure what it was. This does typically happen, however, members who are extremely dissatisfied try to "go out with a bang" on purpose. Perhaps dotdotduck was bashing WI when they created the thread (though the title indicates otherwise), but I think that a (fairly) healthy (and occasionally heated) discussion followed.
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View Post Originally Posted by suneshin3
Wow. Reading pages back, i'd like to give in a say too. In the beginning i didn't pay much attention to this, but now id like to say a few things.

It would be extremely difficult to list all the donts and do's , because there will always be new ones right around the corner. If you are part of the GE, and you look to some really old GE's , things were so much different when people posted-- now it is more organized and easier. It is the same with everything! Today, we may be able to post one thing, and the staff may decide tomorrow we should no longer post that. People should respect their decisions, as they are meaningful and have reasons behind them.

A couple days ago, i was looking around the internet at other forums. A lot of you simply don't understand how lucky you are to be a part of this community. Other forums let TEENAGERS run their sites. The mods/admins can be 13 years old! That's crazy, because the truth is, at 13 you are unable to make reasonable and meaningful decisions . Here at WI, we are blessed to have so many wonderful mods & admins. Did you know that every one of them had a background check? Justin doesn't just pick names out of a hat when he feels the site could use an extra helping hand. That's not the way it works here at WI.

I don't want to be rude, but there are a lot of complaints of people saying rules are getting stricter, and this is no fun anymore. You are not forced to stay, you are not forced to leave. What you choose to do is your decision. But if you're thinking of quitting, go do a quick google search. Look at some other forums. Do you really think you will be as welcome there?

I cannot stress enough that these mods, there admins, they are here for YOU. YOU , YOU, AND ONLY YOU! They are here to keep this site safe for YOU. To keep it fun for YOU. And what do some people give them in return? Well, some people say incredibly rude things about them through pms, which i unfortunately have seen. Some people bash them. Some people yell at them. Those people, are just not using their common sense. Mods and admins have spent so much time trying to make this site fun and safe for everyone, so please don't go get mad at them. Do you really think it's easy running this forum? Do you have any idea how many members there are? I doubt that even one person on this thread would be able to run a site like this without making a few mistakes here and there.

WI is a place for people ranging from ages 7 and up. This is NOT the place to ask for advice on yuor boyfriend, or other things like that . There are many other sites out there, guidance counsellors, therapists, who can help you if you really need it. Please don't post it here, because frankly , once it's viewed by the wrong eyes, deleting the thread and banning the member doesnt makeit go away.



Not exactly sure if you are siding with the person who posted this thread, or not. The mods had every reason to delete that thread. On WI, nobody is superior. Nobody is more important. The winners were chosen fairly, and that is that.

Now, back to the rules. Like myself and many have said, it would be so difficult to write out all the do's and don'ts. People can really just use their common sense. If they post something wrong, the mods or admins will delete it. I am pretty sure they won't ban you if you didn't know. They're not like that.

One last thing-- RESPECT. Im sure everyone has noticed lately respect for other members has been going down the drain. Im not just talking about one incident. There are many things going on by pm , vm , dcts, and its just sick. If you cannot respect someone, please dont say anything . It is said in the rules to respect other members, you all agreed to it when you joined. I don't see what is the need to swear in pms. You all know it will get starred. Yet, ive seen so many people do it. It is ridiculous what my pm box is full of.

To conclude this, you are always going to have people you dont like. You go to a new job , you may not get along with other employees. But are you going to throw a fit, call them bad names, and get fired ? I sure hope not! You need to learn to cope with people you dislike. Respect the disliked. Treat them normal. Because at the end of the day, we're all people. We're all the same, just different.
YES, YES, and YES. I agree with every word of this post. Thank you, sunshine.
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Default Re: Revising the Rules, stop bashing on WI and the Staff.

Great post Suneshin3!

I love that the staff works so hard to make this site FUN and SAFE.
I am grateful they are watching over things.
WI - the staff and members, are what make this unique and awesome community what it is.
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Old 07-29-2010, 09:42 AM   #257
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View Post Originally Posted by suneshin3
Wow. Reading pages back, i'd like to give in a say too. In the beginning i didn't pay much attention to this, but now id like to say a few things.

It would be extremely difficult to list all the donts and do's , because there will always be new ones right around the corner. If you are part of the GE, and you look to some really old GE's , things were so much different when people posted-- now it is more organized and easier. It is the same with everything! Today, we may be able to post one thing, and the staff may decide tomorrow we should no longer post that. People should respect their decisions, as they are meaningful and have reasons behind them.

A couple days ago, i was looking around the internet at other forums. A lot of you simply don't understand how lucky you are to be a part of this community. Other forums let TEENAGERS run their sites. The mods/admins can be 13 years old! That's crazy, because the truth is, at 13 you are unable to make reasonable and meaningful decisions . Here at WI, we are blessed to have so many wonderful mods & admins. Did you know that every one of them had a background check? Justin doesn't just pick names out of a hat when he feels the site could use an extra helping hand. That's not the way it works here at WI.

I don't want to be rude, but there are a lot of complaints of people saying rules are getting stricter, and this is no fun anymore. You are not forced to stay, you are not forced to leave. What you choose to do is your decision. But if you're thinking of quitting, go do a quick google search. Look at some other forums. Do you really think you will be as welcome there?

I cannot stress enough that these mods, there admins, they are here for YOU. YOU , YOU, AND ONLY YOU! They are here to keep this site safe for YOU. To keep it fun for YOU. And what do some people give them in return? Well, some people say incredibly rude things about them through pms, which i unfortunately have seen. Some people bash them. Some people yell at them. Those people, are just not using their common sense. Mods and admins have spent so much time trying to make this site fun and safe for everyone, so please don't go get mad at them. Do you really think it's easy running this forum? Do you have any idea how many members there are? I doubt that even one person on this thread would be able to run a site like this without making a few mistakes here and there.

WI is a place for people ranging from ages 7 and up. This is NOT the place to ask for advice on yuor boyfriend, or other things like that . There are many other sites out there, guidance counsellors, therapists, who can help you if you really need it. Please don't post it here, because frankly , once it's viewed by the wrong eyes, deleting the thread and banning the member doesnt makeit go away.



Not exactly sure if you are siding with the person who posted this thread, or not. The mods had every reason to delete that thread. On WI, nobody is superior. Nobody is more important. The winners were chosen fairly, and that is that.

Now, back to the rules. Like myself and many have said, it would be so difficult to write out all the do's and don'ts. People can really just use their common sense. If they post something wrong, the mods or admins will delete it. I am pretty sure they won't ban you if you didn't know. They're not like that.

One last thing-- RESPECT. Im sure everyone has noticed lately respect for other members has been going down the drain. Im not just talking about one incident. There are many things going on by pm , vm , dcts, and its just sick. If you cannot respect someone, please dont say anything . It is said in the rules to respect other members, you all agreed to it when you joined. I don't see what is the need to swear in pms. You all know it will get starred. Yet, ive seen so many people do it. It is ridiculous what my pm box is full of.

To conclude this, you are always going to have people you dont like. You go to a new job , you may not get along with other employees. But are you going to throw a fit, call them bad names, and get fired ? I sure hope not! You need to learn to cope with people you dislike. Respect the disliked. Treat them normal. Because at the end of the day, we're all people. We're all the same, just different.
Exactly!!! People don't realize how lucky they are to be on such a safe forum
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Old 07-29-2010, 11:39 AM   #258
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View Post Originally Posted by hpharrypotterhp
YES, YES, and YES. I agree with every word of this post. Thank you, sunshine.
View Post Originally Posted by CREDD
Great post Suneshin3!

I love that the staff works so hard to make this site FUN and SAFE.
I am grateful they are watching over things.
WI - the staff and members, are what make this unique and awesome community what it is.
View Post Originally Posted by katiepup
Exactly!!! People don't realize how lucky they are to be on such a safe forum
I am glad we are on the same page
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Old 07-29-2010, 02:24 PM   #259
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Well, one time more than 50 of my posts were deleted when my thread in Creative Works was deleted as well. It was deleted when the new (very strict) rules in that section began.
One time, more than 150 of my posts were gone when a friend's story was deleted. I wish they could have just closed it, because a lot of us lost posts.
View Post Originally Posted by webkinzkayla
Hi all. Ealier today I saw a thread that got closed right after they opened it. It was very rude, it was a protest, a protest about the touring van contest. They were mad because they didn't win and thought most people who won were a GT, Gifted, or a GG. They started a protest why they never win. I thought how rude is that? Mods and Admins do this for fun and yourself. I was very mad why they would ever say that. That is just my opinion. WHat about you evryone?
First of all, we are equal here. It would be rude and unfair to give prizes to the people that are in the GE. I understand that they worked hard to get there [I worked hard to get there, too, when I was there], but it's just NOT FAIR to only award prizes to them. Which is why I think that person's complaint thread wasn't necessary.

Sunshine and Kitty, I agree with you 100%.
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View Post Originally Posted by Justin
Just wanted to address this because it's something typical that happens when someone is banned (assumptions made about why they were banned) and people will walk away from this thinking that dotdotduck was banned for this thread, which completely isn't the case!

The user decided, for unknown reasons, to change their avatar to one containing a bunch of a bad words in it.. They were subsequently reported and the staff banned them for it.

I don't want anyone to think that we don't allow these types of threads, or that you would get banned for creating or participating in one. These types of threads make all of us (both members and staff) think about WI and how to make it a better place.
what happened to the banning policy? or is this an exception?
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