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Old 08-31-2008, 06:30 PM   #11
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That is a good tip!
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View Post Originally Posted by slexeh
wow. i didn't really realize all that stuff would be against the rules.

i know it says no personal information, but why not grades?

it's not like you're saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I GO TO SAINT JACOBY WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN BUMBLEGUMBLE, ARIZONA AND I AM IN 6TH GRADE AND MY HAIR IS BLONDE AND IM ON THE SOCCER TEAM AND I RIDE BUS 42." that i could tottally understand as being unsafe. but just a school year? i guess i just don't get it.
yeah but it is against the rules..sorry i didnt make the rules
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:53 PM   #13
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I have actually been questioned about my age before. I of course did not mention what age I am. I told a moderator, I do not know if anything was done but I hope something was.

I also do not think that people should share their names here on WI. I have seen people post on profiles and on threads things like:
"Hi, ___ whats up?"
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Old 08-31-2008, 06:54 PM   #14
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I know a lot of us are adults and that some might be teachers or religious instructors. I would like to ask that all of you please mention in class how important it is not to share what children think is innocent information. A big WI thanks
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Old 08-31-2008, 08:16 PM   #15
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I can't see age being a problem. Will someone please explain to me why it's unsafe??
Old 08-31-2008, 09:08 PM   #16
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Giving any personal information to the web in very dangerous. You should not give age, grade or anything. I also don't think people should say if they are posting on another site. Unforunately there are people out there who will watch others on the internet & can locate you from all the little personal things you say about yourself.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:13 PM   #17
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View Post Originally Posted by slexeh
wow. i didn't really realize all that stuff would be against the rules.

i know it says no personal information, but why not grades?

it's not like you're saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I GO TO SAINT JACOBY WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN BUMBLEGUMBLE, ARIZONA AND I AM IN 6TH GRADE AND MY HAIR IS BLONDE AND IM ON THE SOCCER TEAM AND I RIDE BUS 42." that i could tottally understand as being unsafe. but just a school year? i guess i just don't get it.
I didn't make the rules, so I'm not entirely certain, but I'll try to explain the reasoning as I understand it. Please note first though, that this post isn't intended to scare you or anything - just help you understand WHY the rules, and internet safety in general, are so important.


Sooo... Let's say, you mention in one of your posts that you live in Arizona. Totally innocent, and not really personally identifying, right?

Now in another post, when someone asks for homework help, you respond saying you can't help with the answer because you're only in 6th grade. Again, totally innocent, right?

A week goes by, you don't even remember making those first two posts. Now you're in the Daily Chat Thread, in Open Mike. The subject is "What's your favorite sport?" You post saying that your favorite sport of all time is soccer, and that you've played since 3rd grade, and last year, your team won the league tournament. Again, totally innocent, right?

....But anyone who looks at your last week worth of posts now knows that you are a 6th grader in Arizona, who plays on a girls 11-13 soccer team that won a league tournament in 2007.

Over the next month, you make more innocent posts. In one, you mention your hair color. In another, maybe a Guess The Number giveaway in the Contests section, you pick 42, innocently mentioning that it's your favorite number because it's the number of your school bus this year, and 42 has been your jersey number for the past 3 years.

Let's say that's all you ever post. Not too bad, right? Let's see... We only know that you're in 6th grade, live in Arizona, play on a girls soccer team that won a league tourney, wear jersey number 42, have blonde hair, and ride bus 42. Uht oh.


And now if a "bad guy" is tech savvy, he can upload a picture onto a webiste that he owns. Any picture. Maybe a rainbow. Maybe a kitten. Every time someone views that picture, he can see their IP address. So now all he has to do, is PM you with that picture included in the message. It can be a totally innocent PM. BUT even if you delete it, and don't respond, as long as you opened it, he now has your IP address.

So now he can decipher your IP address... do a reverse lookup, use an IP to location tool, and find out the exact town or city where you live - BumbleGumble, AZ. So now they just have to google the 11-13 y/o girls soccer teams in BumbleGumble, and find out which one won the tournament. There's probably a team picture archived somewhere on the internet, from the news story that was inevitably run when your team won. It probably includes your first and last name, too. Just look for number 42 with blonde hair. BINGO! Now he just has to go sit outside the local school for a day, and look for the girl from the picture who is getting onto bus 42...

Even imagine how much easier it would make it to find you if you'd signed your first name on a post on a friend's profile. Yikes!



5 or 6 "innocent" pieces of information, in 5 or 6 different posts, spread over a month or two long period. You don't even remember making half of them, but that's all it takes. So the rules are meant to keep you safe. They're meant to prevent you from posting ANY identifying information about yourself. It's VERY easy to let little bits slip here and there, and think nothing of it. I know I do it all the time, often times without even thinking about it. (I'm over 18, and have all my info out there from my social/political activities anyways, so I know I'm a little more careless than I probably ought to be.) So the mods don't want anyone posting their state, city, age, school year, team names, first names, last names, etc. Nothing that can be used to identify you. The rules are there to make sure that WI is one of the safest sites on the internet, and a site where parents feel comfortable letting their kids visit.
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View Post Originally Posted by slexeh
wow. i didn't really realize all that stuff would be against the rules.

i know it says no personal information, but why not grades?

it's not like you're saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I GO TO SAINT JACOBY WILLIAMS ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN BUMBLEGUMBLE, ARIZONA AND I AM IN 6TH GRADE AND MY HAIR IS BLONDE AND IM ON THE SOCCER TEAM AND I RIDE BUS 42." that i could tottally understand as being unsafe. but just a school year? i guess i just don't get it.
Because saying your grade gives out your age.
Think about it, really.

3rd grade is around 8 or 9
4th grade is around 9 or 10
5th is around 10 or 11
6th is around 11 or 12, etc.

So it's unsafe to even give out your grade, because you're giving out your age.
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:15 PM   #19
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yes thank you so much for making this thread and also stop spamming that is happeneing alot
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Old 08-31-2008, 09:19 PM   #20
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Sorry that was so long! Just trying to help everyone understand the "why" behind the rules. Sometimes knowing why makes them a little easier to follow.
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