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Old 02-27-2008, 09:37 AM   #11
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I'd like to add a few things.

First of all, theres been this perception lately that getting your posts modified or deleted should be taken as a slap on the hand or a "spank" as I've heard people call it lately. There are LOTS of reasons posts can and will be deleted. Yes, some of them are about saying "Thats against the rules" and then taking some appropriate action more often than not a warning.

But a lot of times, we are just trying to keep WI a safe place for everyone. Unless you're going around consistently causing trouble or breaking our rules, we're not looking at a list like you find on your User CP Home and counting up how many posts have been deleted to eventually remove you from our forum. Thats just not how it works.

As for some things not being listed in the rules...I hope that most of you can appreciate that this forum moves FAST. What is true one day might not be true the next. Sometimes, we have to react...quickly using our best judgment. We were all carefully selected to fill our spots on the staff...and part of that is that we're entrusted to make on-the-spot judgment calls that might not be in the rules somewhere.

As is the case with YouTube, we have had lots of conversations where we look at the pros and cons of posting those links. We make decisions and we run with them. We don't have a huge list of posting guidelines...because really we expect people to make their best judgments about what they post. If we see something we don't feel comfortable with, its going to be deleted.

As I tell a lot of people, you're just going to have to trust us.

If you look at it more from a perspective of us just trying to keep everyone safe and less like someone is targeting your posts or slapping your hand...it all makes a little more sense.

Just wanted to add...I sort of look at it this way. I have rules in my house (no slamming doors, no using this word or that...no Sponge Bob..ick) but every once in a while my daughter will do something and I'll say "Don't do that...thats not wise" and she'll agree. Its not anywhere ingrained in her head...I've not recited it to her before in a list of other rules. But it doesn't mean she shouldn't mind and it doesn't mean that me asking her not to isn't valid.

I don't get mad at my daughter when she does such things...its not about that. Its about a constant adjusting process that we both work through.

You've been told not to post YouTube links. You've been given the reason why. I would like to think that would be enough.

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Old 02-27-2008, 09:57 AM   #12
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I think that sometimes we forget exactly how dangerous the internet can be---and how mischievious others are. Our innocent remarks on age etc... are innocent to us but it is fuel for child predators. Utube can be good, but it is also riddled with inappropriate behavior etc...just like myspace.

I'm sure the mod's aren't 'picking' on you---just trying to keep everyone safe.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:05 AM   #13
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Thank you for your posts, i think they are great!. I know what your talking about and i get it, safety of children is #1. My children are fully monitored when playing on the computer, unless they are on webkinz, i feel i dont need to sit there and watch for content, but youtube is a family thing, they can only watch what we say is ok. If there is something bad for kids to see , my kids know when Mommy or Daddy say close your eyes, they close them. This bothers me the most when we are watching TV and a scary commercial for a movie comes on, that bugs me alot. Same for Star Wars 3, when anakin gets beat by obiwan, my kids wouldnt open there eyes for that no matter what! They are young and need protecting, i agree.

My point is the rules, are not up to date. I just re-read them and i just think they should say a little more. WI is awesome, dont get me wrong, its the first thing i sign into when i turn my comp on. What would we do if there was no WI? You say you want to make it as safe as possible? Then why not make sure the posts that shouldnt be posted are stated in the rules so new members know? No **** - obvious, no age- not so obvious, no **** is in the rules but no age isnt. If you dont allow it , make it publically known.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:10 AM   #14
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I had a few of my posts soft-deleted. I like that, it sounds much gentler than DELETED. I had posted a Reindeer with double W's and that it was on Ebay (that moment). Not being sure of the rules regarding links, I posted the the Ebay link, anyway. I didn't think there was any harm in it, but 'when in doubt, give the Mods a shout!' That usually clears anything up. Not everything is written in stone on here and a lot of us find out by trial and error what is acceptable and what is not. I had been gently chided by a moderator for including my Grandchild's age and for using a Moderator posting color (Administrator/Mods post in Red and Blue.) I then wrote immediately to the Moderator and she posted me back saying, 'I know you are new. It's ok. ' Those were her exact words. I suddenly felt a whole lot better knowing that I wasn't being 'Yelled at.' Just gently told what was acceptable and what wasn't. The Moderators are really a warm bunch of people and are available at a moments notice for any and all questions you have. They deal with it patiently and gently. I think they have been hand chosen, quite well. It is why I choose to stay on this site.
Lunawater, I monitor at all times, as well. But, it only takes a MOMENT...we can't be there all the time, it only takes a moment.

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Old 02-27-2008, 10:17 AM   #15
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You cant link ebay either? What!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:20 AM   #16
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You aren't allowed to post your or others ages. I don't understandwhat youtube's problem is, though. And your posts should have been edited, not deleted, I wonder why that happened?
Old 02-27-2008, 10:22 AM   #17
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And i now see my siggy has been edited. you might aswell take the other one off too!! Thanks!!
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:25 AM   #18
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I very much appreciate the safety rules here on WI. I think they are necessary, and I thank the mods for constantly reinforcing them.

This web-site is shared by adults and children--who are constantly interacting with one another. That in itself, is a dicey situation right there. We have no way of knowing who might be a predator, who might be disturbed enough to track any personal information that might be accidentally revealed.

Futhermore, I don't understand why it is necessary for anyone to know anyone's ages: what purpose does it serve? It's not important at all.

As far as Youtube...and myspace....and all the other sites.......my personal feeling is, they are potential trouble, and there is no need to offer their links on WI.

Again--and I know I say this often: Thank you mods for working so hard to enforce safety rules.
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Old 02-27-2008, 10:35 AM   #19
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Well...we appreciate everyone's responses and support. I don't think much more needs to be said that hasn't already.

The reasons have been stated...the case has been made. I don't want this turning into a debate about whats wrong and whats right or how we should be doing our jobs.

Our pm boxes are ALWAYS open to comments and suggestions. Lunawater, yours have been noted. Thanks everyone!
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