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Old 04-15-2008, 10:01 AM   #1
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Default Compatibility problem with Permalink when using Safari

I've been using the links for a while now and on occasion had trouble with both the permalink and the #<number> post number link. I usually use my mouse to 'Copy Link' and then insert it into a new posting, although at time I follow the link and then copy & paste from the resulting URL.

I think in one case the problem was that the number just happened to be the same as a smiley, so it ended up with asterisks where there should have been a number. At the time I didn't think to disable smileys on the post, so I never did get that link working.

What I would expect the difference to be is that the #<number> would bring you to the Nth post in that thread, while the permalink would be a permanent link (regardless of any deleted posts) to that posting regardless of position within the thread. There seems to be a few other differences though.

Could someone please take the time to clearly describe the differences and any known issues?

Thanks

Last edited by BjornTorunn; 04-20-2008 at 06:14 AM.. Reason: Change title to be more descriptive of actual situation
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:04 AM   #2
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Default Re: What is the difference between Permalink and the other link?

I never even knew there were differences or anything to that effect.
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Old 04-15-2008, 10:51 AM   #3
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Default Re: What is the difference between Permalink and the other link?

View Post Originally Posted by shadowsown88
I never even knew there were differences or anything to that effect.
Using this thread as an example, if I use the #2 in your posting I get the link:
http://www.webkinzinsider.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6892172&postcount=2
while if I use the Permalink I get:
http://www.webkinzinsider.com/forum/showthread.php?t=278671&#post6892172

Two different URLs that should both lead to the same posting.
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:40 PM   #4
 
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What are the links?permalink?i know about that one though.
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:41 PM   #5
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Permalink means even if some thread is deleted, you can still see the post. For regular #, if a thread is deleted, that post is gone.
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Old 04-16-2008, 04:42 PM   #6
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Default Re: What is the difference between Permalink and the other link?

idk ask someone smart
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Old 04-19-2008, 02:35 PM   #7
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Default Re: What is the difference between Permalink and the other link?

Alright, I did a little more digging and it appears that part of my problems is a compatibility problem with Safari. Some of the anchors aren't working.

If I go to the WI GEV in Safari and click on the link in the index to Rare Items, it just brings up the WI GEV starting at the top. In Firefox it will bring you to the correct section. The same with the example PermaLink I gave above.

I haven't yet figured out what the problem is, the auto-generated pages are a bit complex. Unfortunately I can't just run the normal HTML Validator, it gets a 301 error.

I did bring up Firefox's error console and tried it. I get "Unknown property 'filter'. Declaration dropped." and a lot of warnings about vbrep_register is not defined. The later is most likely because I was not logged in under Firefox.

Still not sure what prevents the permalinks from working in Safari, but it does appear some of my problems are browser specific.

Could someone with an iPhone or iTouch see if the same problems happen under Safari on those devices?
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Old 04-19-2008, 03:16 PM   #8
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Default Re: What is the difference between Permalink and the other link?

The computer talk is making me scared...

Sorry, I don't know. Good luck finding out though!
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Old 04-20-2008, 07:35 AM   #9
 
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oh cmon someone help me!what are the differences?
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Old 04-20-2008, 10:25 AM   #10
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Default Re: Compatibility problem with Permalink when using Safari

View Post Originally Posted by miss sherbert
oh cmon someone help me!what are the differences?
Oops, sorry I missed the question. I'll try to explain.

Using your post above:

The #9 provides a relative link based on the thread. It will take you to the ninth posting in this thread. If the thread or a post above your post gets deleted, it would not bring you to your post. I've noticed it also only shows a single post.

The (permalink) provides a direct link to your post that should work even if a post above your post got deleted. It brings up the whole thread. On Foxfire it will go directly to the post. On Safari, it just brings up the thread the post is in. That would be the compatibility issue that I changed the topic title to point out. I have only tested it on the two browsers named and only on Mac OS 10.5.

In order to get the URL for those two links, you would put your mouse over the link and right click (or control click with a one-button mouse on a Mac) and select Copy Link. Then you could use the link icon Click the image to open in full size. to insert the link into your post. When it asks for URL, just paste in the one you just copied.

Does that answer your question?

In case you haven't noticed, the little arrow following a name in a quote is also a link back to the message being quoted. It appears to have the same issues as the permalink.
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