Atomicolicious Etiquette

[GFred]

I have read a few threads here regarding people quitting in the middle of the game. Yeah, that's annoying but for serious players of this game, there are other issues I would like to address. I will list these atomicolicious issues below. Please comment or add to the list if you like.

1. You should complete the game. Yes, I know the big issue is having someone quit on you when you are winning. I don't like that either but as long as I get the Kinzcash, I really don't mind. If my opponent doesn't want to hang in there, then I don't want to waste either of our time. I would also like to address another side of not quitting. That is when you happen to have an opponent who doesn't know how to play (makes illegitimate moves and takes a lot of time). I usually think it's a young kid who is trying out the game. There might be some people who would quit the game because they don't want to waste their time. I would contend that quitting this type of game should not be done either because it might upset your opponent (similar to your opponent quitting when they are losing). Remember, complete the game.

2. Win or lose, I like a competitive game. I have found some very good player on WW. One thing that upsets me when I am in a competitive game is my opponent intentionally making an illegitimate move (moving 2 atoms that will not result in a 3 or more match) or allow themselves to timeout in order to avoid making the last and only move before the atoms must be reshuffled or when that only move will cause them to lose the game. Some people might think this is a totally legitimate strategy but I would contend that this just makes the game less enjoyable and less competitive. If both players do this, the game would just go back and forth and wouldn't end until someone quits. How much fun is that? Whenever this happens to me, I will just continue the game but win or lose, I will not give the opponent a rematch.

3. At the end of a competitive game, I think the winner should be the one who asks for a rematch. I think that sends a good signal to your opponent that he/she was a good opponent and is worthy of a rematch.

4. When someone tries to communicate using Kinzchat, it's always nice to reply. I know Kinzchat is very limited and pretty lame but making an effort to reply might make your opponent not feel like he/she is talking to a wall. The least you can do is reply "Atomicolicious" or "Go Science". Maybe even "Nice Move" when appropriate.

Well, that's all I can think of. Please let me know anything I might have missed or comment on what I have listed above.

[phoebedad]

Excellent points you have brought up here. I completely agree with all the rules you have established here. I for one hate it when the other person quits because they are losing, and have played many games where the other person started out with a series of 4-in-a-rows putting me far behind from the outset. HHowever, through smart playing, I can usually make the game competitive in the end, and although I don't always come back and win, it is still fun. The competition is what matters to em overall, nto wininning or losing, and not the 50KC that you ultimately end up with. If i wanted scads of cash, I would play supermodels only!

Today, I was playing against an individual that was very good and we had an excellent game going. However, with only 10 moves left, it was their turn and the only move on the board was one that would have given them three atoms that they didn't need, while leaving me with 4 zappers in a row. They chose to throw away their turn. I felt insulted after the great game that we had and immediately quit the game, throwing away 75 KC (up to that point).

Maybe I was wrong and it was a knee jerk reaction, but I feel that I did not want to finish the game with this person.

[WebkinzBatRulz]

I think some quit cause they aren't winning...and don't want to be on the losing end. I have never once quitted a game cause I wasn't winning. On the other hand, some may quit cause they have to leave to go eat lunch or something else.

To me when they do that, it is like cheating. If it is their turn, they should take it.

[Jeninfla]

Your point number 2 is a pet peeve of mine too. Usually when i see a player "throwing a move" I will do that exact same move back to them (unless I see that its not in my favor) to show them I am onto their deception.

One other peeve. If you are going to be a player who doesn't use the "zap" great, but don't pretend you don't use it then use it ALL IN ONE TURN, thats just annoying. I won't zap anyone until they zap me first. Also...I've had players zap me repeatedly then the first time I zap them back they quit...go figure.

[GFred]

Originally Posted by phoebedad

Maybe I was wrong and it was a knee jerk reaction, but I feel that I did not want to finish the game with this person.

If your opponent spoiled a competitive game, then you have every right to quit. The only reason I would choose to continue the game when it happens to me is because I don't like to lose the KC and know that my opponent gets it.

Originally Posted by Jeninfla

Your point number 2 is a pet peeve of mine too. Usually when i see a player "throwing a move" I will do that exact same move back to them (unless I see that its not in my favor) to show them I am onto their deception.

One other peeve. If you are going to be a player who doesn't use the "zap" great, but don't pretend you don't use it then use it ALL IN ONE TURN, thats just annoying. I won't zap anyone until they zap me first. Also...I've had players zap me repeatedly then the first time I zap them back they quit...go figure.

Yeah, I've thought of doing the same move but then it would probably go back and forth until someone quits.

Zapping seems to be a sensitive issue. There are some people who don't like to zap. I usually don't like to zap but that's because unless there is a strategic advantage, it's a wasted move. If it is part of a combination move or if I have a limited choice of moves, then I am a little more likely to zap.

[Ritzcracker]

I completely agree with your first two points. About the second point, if someone refuses to make a move, I'll just purposely make a false move. They get the point every time.

About who should ask for a rematch, I think either party should feel free to do so. If I've lost a game, I'll usually ask for a rematch, but if I've really creamed an opponent, I feel like I'm rubbing it in by asking for a rematch, like I'm saying that this is easy money, and I'm going to win again. Then again, you never know the other person's situation - they may have to leave for whatever reason.

And about the Kinzchat, some of us have really slow computers, and it takes quite a while to actually manage to say something. I'm not going to waste my turn trying to say something, and not have time to look for good combos. Also, depending on the settings of the computer, sometimes the "Send" button isn't visible. So if someone doesn't reply, don't take it personal. It could just be the computer...

[a3doglife]

Originally Posted by Jeninfla

Your point number 2 is a pet peeve of mine too. Usually when i see a player "throwing a move" I will do that exact same move back to them (unless I see that its not in my favor) to show them I am onto their deception.

One other peeve. If you are going to be a player who doesn't use the "zap" great, but don't pretend you don't use it then use it ALL IN ONE TURN, thats just annoying. I won't zap anyone until they zap me first. Also...I've had players zap me repeatedly then the first time I zap them back they quit...go figure.

I so agree with this thread. also this statement here...
I have also noticed that we get a certain amount of time to make a move -so how does the other player not make a move, yet the 'ran out of time' never happens, and I just sit waiting until I say "I think you've won this one" and then they move or quit.
also the other person for the last move to wind up the game they never make a move & just sit there and again the other person never gets the 'ran out of time'
If they make a move that is illegitimate just to cheat -I will make the same move too, then after a few times they lose anyway (you can only do it a few times before the game decides you've lost...)
* I never zap unless it is the last move
And then you have those that will zap In the first move & and there will be a bunch of moves to make & to ruin the zap so it can't be used against you back.
But this is where it gets good because if you notice the zap always leaves the other opponent a really good move (if you look well you can find it) usually will lead to 4+ in a row. And If you zap me and I obviously have not zapped you and there are moves on the board..It's all over -no mercy then. a zap for zap & no matching colors if I can help it.
OH & then there are those that just put up the little snot face smiley & I usually respond with the thumbs up and the "I think you've one this one" and they get the point and they usually quit.

MOST OF ALL, I notice that most of the players are just rude & just want to zap or make "non" moves to cheat- I hate cheaters so if they don't quit I will make moves to make it harder to get more then 3 in a row.

I was taught to treat others how you want to be treated & I feel it applies especially well here.

Yes, this all may be childish but Adults are the worst offenders & I think 80% of WW users are just that- childish adults... ... ... ... ...

OH & I think All the quitters are in the green zone today- wasting everyones time... so Rude

[GFred]

Originally Posted by a3doglife

But this is where it gets good because if you notice the zap always leaves the other opponent a really good move (if you look well you can find it) usually will lead to 4+ in a row.

I've noticed this also. I don't always get a good move after being zapped but it seems to happen more than normal after being zapped. That's why it doesn't bother me when my opponent uses the zap. It's their choice. Sometimes I am relieved after the opponent uses the zap because it ends the angst of "will they or won't they?".

Concerning your point that sometimes it seems like the opponent doesn't time out after 30 seconds, I think it is due to the way WW times things. If your opponent's PC is slower, then the 30 seconds will be longer. I've seen the same timing anomaly with other things in WW.

[Jeninfla]

Originally Posted by GFred

If your opponent spoiled a competitive game, then you have every right to quit. The only reason I would choose to continue the game when it happens to me is because I don't like to lose the KC and know that my opponent gets it.



Yeah, I've thought of doing the same move but then it would probably go back and forth until someone quits.

Zapping seems to be a sensitive issue. There are some people who don't like to zap. I usually don't like to zap but that's because unless there is a strategic advantage, it's a wasted move. If it is part of a combination move or if I have a limited choice of moves, then I am a little more likely to zap.

Its about 50/50. A lot of the time when people realize you are onto what they are doing they will go ahead and take the move.
I won't zap first and it bugs me to no end to play people who seem to think that its a rule of the game that you have to zap at every opportunity, even if it means bypassing good moves on their part!

Oh, and if you try to cheat by making a wrong move or timing out don't bother asking for a rematch, it won't happen. Same for chronic zappers, thats just annoying and boring.

[dkenkel56]

One of my pet peeves is when a player quits mid game and then want to be your friend. Besides I'm not big on being friends with other players. It sorta makes me feel like a dirty old man.

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