Random Trophies in Webkinz World - PART II !!

[JALW]

Williamson - all of your tips have been awesome and I have won more trophies from your advice (still working on candy bash2 for a second trophy) Now....how about solving some of those recipes!

[williamson_39]

Originally Posted by Wendy

Thank you so much for compiling and sharing this information. I have stickied it with your Part I analysis.

Wow, thanks! If you're finding the sticky area gets a little heavy, I don't mind this one floating free. It may not have the broad appeal of the first, and it is linked from it anyway. I've tried to connect the trophy-related threads and tutorials through the original EXPLAINED post. Still, this does make it easy to modify for new games or odds changes.

There are still a few more Gamez mysteries remaining, and no doubt things will change occasionally, so you'll be seeing more around the forum!

@JALW - Funny you should ask - I was just talking to Amneris about it - there are over 450,000 different recipez possible, and although I won't be cooking up anything too revealing any time soon, Amneris is! (There's a thread in progress in the Recipez forum: http://www.webkinzinsider.com/forum/...h-t186022.html).

A snack while waiting for the next trophy, I guess. Cheers all!

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BTW, I'm working on a graph by game time, as demanded suggested by Jillion (thanks a lot ). It will take me a while to collect my playing time data, but I'll post it sometime.

[Skeloman]

Thankyou very much for the information, very dissapointing though for the information on go go googles... same with boogers... makes me sad...

[jillion]

Originally Posted by williamson_39

BTW, I'm working on a graph by game time, as demanded suggested by Jillion (thanks a lot ).

Oh good, I’m glad you are working on it! After that....

Originally Posted by williamson_39

Operative word being "you".

...I thought I was going to have to remind you that I am the eccentric theoretical mathematician (who lounges around all day, thinking about abstract concepts) and that you are the magnificent applied engineer (who actually does all the work applying the concepts to the real world…well, in this case, a virtual world). LOL.

Here’s my post from yesterday that remained un-posted since WI gave me trouble yesterday morning. I meant to post it later in the afternoon, but then logged into WW and started playing Goober’s, OP Gumball, Booger’s, and Googles and lost track of time. So, here it is below, where I further demand gently encourage you to make a second graph.
---------- jillion wrote 1692 Minutes and 37 Seconds earlier ----------

Originally Posted by williamson_39

…The reason I settled on games played was that I felt that people naturally overestimate their trophy-earning opportunities, and they can more readily track games played. I thought a deliberately conservative estimate would make the graph easier to relate to (and feel superior to) …

I agree that your graph is perfect as it is--as I said, beautiful! I’m glad that you chose Games Played for the vertical axis for this first graph, since that is indeed easiest for people to track via the Newspaper>Scores & Achievements. [Aside: Your choice of trophy-chances is also perfect …love the part about feeling superior…good logic and even better psychology!]

For your second graph, perhaps just use an good estimate (based on your own playing ability) of how long it takes you to reach those same number of trophy-chances as shown in your current graph. The actual time, of course, will vary from player to player. It will, however, give us a better relative comparison of the likelihoods. That is, given a fixed playing ability (i.e., yours), it would show us the relative likelihood of getting a trophy as a function of time. Note that the shape of each of the colored trophy-curves won’t really change at all, only their relative vertical position will change on the graph (right?). I think Goober’s would definitely drop a bit.

Time is subjective anyway…I know for me, when I play Goober’s Lab, I fall into some sort of time-warp…an hour of real time could go by in what seems like just a few minutes! But if we do want to compare the trophies (say to get a feel for how valuable they should be when traded, for instance), it’d be nice if they were displayed in a similar time scale.

[melmoore]

cool!! im goona try to earn that gobbera lab trophy

[Cami_000]

This helped alot so far I have got % trophies in the past 3 days. It is easy to read and understand. I like this thread and your previous one. Thanks for the help.

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I meant to say I go 5 trophies in 3 days. My bad. lol

[slycooper]

wow this is really good thanks

[rybugsmom]

as always......LOVE your analysis!! and great to see a realistic look at trophy earning probabilities!

Susan:pgn:

[SusieQ]

Thanks for taking the time and offering some really great informative information. I learned a lot and that's what this forum is all about. I still want a trophy!

tyvm. this helped me so much!