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Old 11-05-2009, 09:05 PM   #1131
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Carmel I am so sorry about Fantine. I know it's great that she did have a home and was found by her owner - you are an ANGEL for helping her through birth, but it is so sad to have to let them go. We had a black cat that kept coming into our home, we loved him and named him midnight. It turns out that he had a home that kept letting him outside, and we had to give him back to his owners. It broke our hearts. But I am SOOOO proud of you and happy that you will become a foster momma to other cats! And perhaps you will have a Thenardier!


The Surgery went well, hubby was released this afternoon and is now sleeping a little. He's very uncomfortable and in pain. DD has been afraid to go near him. She thinks he will pop open. She has been healing well from H1N1.

So we log on to Webkinz just a few minutes ago and her healthy Strawberry Cloud Lepopard winds up with a green nose and an ice bag on it's head. DD freaked out. She now thinks she gave her Webkinz the swine flu *sigh*. This must be a new feature because she brought it to Dr.Quack and he gave her medicine for $25 and a badge that says she is a doctor's helper. She has to feed it Jelly and Popsicles.

She was crying that her pet now has to "eat like daddy" and that she got it sick.

Ohhhh the joy of literal Autism...

Off to recovery duty...
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Today was the visitation day at my girls' schools. At my younger daughter's school things went fine. I got to see how she is distracted and bored, but that is OK because I can help try to solve the issue with the teachers now that I have seen exactly what she is doing first hand.

When I went to older daughter's school I expected to see that her aide is not with her all the time, like they are supposed to be (head of LS in the school's doing), I was expecting to see the one teacher not have much patience with her, but was pleasantly shocked that she was showing a large amount of it- unlike she had when she taught my younger daughter. It was nice to see how her math teacher was with her and he even used her work as an example of what TO DO. What I did not expect and was horrified at follows:

The head of Learning Support for her grade and the 2 grades above her bullied and tormented her. It is beyond forgiveness for a teacher to do it,especially a learning support teacher to do it to a child with a disability.

The ONLY thing that stopped this teacher was her seeing me there, but she didn't see me before she did it. And to top it off, HOW and WHY can she think it was OK to do it in the first place???????????

My daughter opened the door to the LS room to do her afternoon 'scales (a paper to say how her day went), knocked once, opened the door and said (in a normal, clear voice) "Mrs. XXXX" and this horrid person started yelling (bellowing) at my daughter and rushed and stormed across a room so fast that she had my daughter, in less than 5 seconds, in a ball, cowering with her hands over head, shaking, crying, terrified. I was 4 FEET away and this person was standing over her yelling more before I could even absorb what was going on!!!!

I WENT OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what did this waste of a husk do? Started trying to BLAME MY DAUGHTER!!!!! Like I wasn't just standing there and SAW AND HEARD IT ALL- along with my daughter's aide!!!!!

I HATE this school, I HATE this teacher, I HATE that we are stuck here, I HATE that they torture these children FIRST and then say 'oh you know things are always a work in progress'.

I did get a hold of the head of LS for the district and told her what all happened. I do not want this person near my daughter EVER AGAIN. I've said it before, every second is a second closer to her being cyber-schooled and this just might have done it.

We are trying to see if we can get an attorney to represent our daughter, but it is so hard to find one pro-bono. We can't afford one for what they are asking.

I am trying to find somehow- some agency or organization that will get us to one, but it is difficult- so many have stopped when the economy tanked.

But if I would have been literally, just 6 inches closer when she came out to stand over my daughter (before she literally ran her huge behind back into the room when she saw me there) I would have been in jail today- there is no doubt in my mind. I got to have that split second to look at my daughter and know what it would do to HER if that happened and that is THE ONLY thing to save that (I want to say woman, but she doesn't deserve a description so kind) from me beating the living crap out out of her- and I am NOT a violent person.

I did really well holding it together, and I, I want to take her out so bad- she wants to stay to see the other kids and the teachers that have been nice to her.

I just don't even know what to do anymore


She is NOT going back to that school tomorrow and we don't know what is going to happen fromt his point yet. We talked with my daughter this evening again and found that this teacher did something similar before, but my daughter felt like she would get into trouble at school if she told me.

Remember this is the learning support teacher that did this.

I don't care, tomorrow my daughter will be on the computer playing WW with me playing game after game to help keep her pets stats up (so that doesn't upset her), watching movies, and maybe a few small chores. I am going to try to get her to my mother's (but she is sick) or my grandmother's for the rest of the weekend to get her away from this place for a few days.

No child deserves this kind of treatment.


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Carmel I am so sorry about Fantine. I know it's great that she did have a home and was found by her owner - you are an ANGEL for helping her through birth, but it is so sad to have to let them go. We had a black cat that kept coming into our home, we loved him and named him midnight. It turns out that he had a home that kept letting him outside, and we had to give him back to his owners. It broke our hearts. But I am SOOOO proud of you and happy that you will become a foster momma to other cats! And perhaps you will have a Thenardier!


The Surgery went well, hubby was released this afternoon and is now sleeping a little. He's very uncomfortable and in pain. DD has been afraid to go near him. She thinks he will pop open. She has been healing well from H1N1.

So we log on to Webkinz just a few minutes ago and her healthy Strawberry Cloud Lepopard winds up with a green nose and an ice bag on it's head. DD freaked out. She now thinks she gave her Webkinz the swine flu *sigh*. This must be a new feature because she brought it to Dr.Quack and he gave her medicine for $25 and a badge that says she is a doctor's helper. She has to feed it Jelly and Popsicles.

She was crying that her pet now has to "eat like daddy" and that she got it sick.

Ohhhh the joy of literal Autism...

Off to recovery duty...
The sick pet isn't new, it only pops up occasionally. the badge is the new part though Just tell her that it has been going around WW just like it has been at the schools and that the medicine is a special vaccine Mine got upset when hers first got sick, I can't remember exactly how I explained it all to her right now (brain in lock-down mode) but after the first time it gets easier when they see it again- at least it did for my daughter.

Glad to hear your hubby got through OK and is resting, if not comfortably, at least where he knows he's loved. I know someone who had that done and it took them a few weeks to really bounce back from it. Supposedly they have 'updated' the surgery and it isn't as intense, so hopefully he will much sooner!!!
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:56 AM   #1133
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My daughter opened the door to the LS room to do her afternoon 'scales (a paper to say how her day went), knocked once, opened the door and said (in a normal, clear voice) "Mrs. XXXX" and this horrid person started yelling (bellowing) at my daughter and rushed and stormed across a room so fast that she had my daughter, in less than 5 seconds, in a ball, cowering with her hands over head, shaking, crying, terrified. I was 4 FEET away and this person was standing over her yelling more before I could even absorb what was going on!!!!

I WENT OFF !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And what did this waste of a husk do? Started trying to BLAME MY DAUGHTER!!!!! Like I wasn't just standing there and SAW AND HEARD IT ALL- along with my daughter's aide!!!!!

I HATE this school, I HATE this teacher, I HATE that we are stuck here, I HATE that they torture these children FIRST and then say 'oh you know things are always a work in progress'.

I did get a hold of the head of LS for the district and told her what all happened. I do not want this person near my daughter EVER AGAIN. I've said it before, every second is a second closer to her being cyber-schooled and this just might have done it.

We are trying to see if we can get an attorney to represent our daughter, but it is so hard to find one pro-bono. We can't afford one for what they are asking.

I am trying to find somehow- some agency or organization that will get us to one, but it is difficult- so many have stopped when the economy tanked.

But if I would have been literally, just 6 inches closer when she came out to stand over my daughter (before she literally ran her huge behind back into the room when she saw me there) I would have been in jail today- there is no doubt in my mind. I got to have that split second to look at my daughter and know what it would do to HER if that happened and that is THE ONLY thing to save that (I want to say woman, but she doesn't deserve a description so kind) from me beating the living crap out out of her- and I am NOT a violent person.

I did really well holding it together, and I, I want to take her out so bad- she wants to stay to see the other kids and the teachers that have been nice to her.

I just don't even know what to do anymore

She is NOT going back to that school tomorrow and we don't know what is going to happen fromt his point yet. We talked with my daughter this evening again and found that this teacher did something similar before, but my daughter felt like she would get into trouble at school if she told me.

Remember this is the learning support teacher that did this.

I don't care, tomorrow my daughter will be on the computer playing WW with me playing game after game to help keep her pets stats up (so that doesn't upset her), watching movies, and maybe a few small chores. I am going to try to get her to my mother's (but she is sick) or my grandmother's for the rest of the weekend to get her away from this place for a few days.

No child deserves this kind of treatment.
You are 110% correct. No child deserves to be treated like that. You were right to go to the head of LS for the district, but you also need to put everything in writing. Keep a journal of some kind. I would also go to the head of special education for the district, if there IS someone higher than the head of LS. A letter to the superintendent and even the school board would not be out of line either.

If I ever saw my son treated that way, I would create such a fuss that they would have no hope of ever living it down. Use any means necessary. Right a letter to the editor of the newspaper. Generate publicity. School districts HATE bad publicity. Public outcry will do much more than a lawyer can.

As it is Friday, definitely keep your daughter home. Let her have a special 3-day weekend.

I need to get my rugrat on the bus, but will be thinking of you. Make it a great day for you both!
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Old 11-06-2009, 02:56 PM   #1134
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1st of all...i got this from a children's rights website:
What is Child Abuse?

Although there are many formal and acceptable definitions of child abuse, the following is offered as a guide;
Child abuse consists of any act of commission or omission that endangers or impairs a child's physical or emotional health and development.
Child abuse includes any damage done to a child which cannot be reasonably explained and which is often represented by an injury or series of injuries appearing to be non-accidental in nature.


I believe your child was abused by this teacher and you need to report that to your local authorities. Sending your child to school should be a safe environment. With the actions that happened when you where there, that is not a safe environment for your child. I also suggest following carmel mom's suggestions too. Your school board needs to know whats going on in their district. Get a written statement that is notarized from your DD's Aide. This aide is a witness to your child being abused beside yourself. Its no wonder your child is so upset when she comes home from school...I would be too. I wish I could shower your DD with lots of smiles, hugs and reassurance that she did nothing wrong. That she is a great kid.


Let her enjoy a longer weekend and build her up. I will be sending you the address to this foundation. They have something nationwide set up to helping find someone that will protect your DD's rights. They will help to secure the litigation needed to address the individual and systemic problems that face disabled children in our educational system. As an adult that has gone thru emotional abuse, I believe that if I had someone to hug me and reassure me that you did nothing wrong I would be more emotionally stable. Please shower your dd with love and encouragement. Try and focus on how proud you are of different achievements she has done lately. Re enforce to your daughter that she is not in trouble for what happened to her from that id**t. Encourage her to talk about anything positive or negative that happens at school with you. That her school day is important to you. I have found when something negative has happened to me it really helps me just to talk to someone about it. I believe that if she tells you the good and bad at school she will start to feel better. Also it will help you give her tools what to do next time something like this ever happens to her again.

Sending my love and encouragement to your DD,
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:20 PM   #1135
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The Surgery went well, hubby was released this afternoon and is now sleeping a little. He's very uncomfortable and in pain. DD has been afraid to go near him. She thinks he will pop open. She has been healing well from H1N1.
That is great news Mom2kinzlover!! I am glad to hear your hubby's surgery went well and that your daughter is also doing so well!!

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Ohhhh the joy of literal Autism...
I love that "literal Autism". I am sure we have all have a few stories to share in reference to that!!

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Today was the visitation day at my girls' schools!!
Meows - I am so sorry that you and your DD are still having to go through all this with her school. I am saying a few choice words now in reference to this *****!!

I wish I could come there and help you!! I am going to be in the area in three weeks and it crossed my mind to extend my trip by an extra day so I could come and raise ****! They would not stand a chance against the two of us united!! I think all my friends would take issue with missing the day of work though and my boys will be anxious for me to get back to celebrate my birthday. I will not be home for it.

I think if I was in your position I would make an appointment with this woman. I would sit down very calmly with her and ask her what she was thinking. Then I would go right in to the line about when God was handing out empathy he must have forgot you!!!! When God was handing out kindness, he must have forgot you!! When God was handing out hearts . . . you get the picture!!

I do not know how you held it together. It was the right thing to do but how did you manage? I am way over here and I want to stamp on her head! And like you, I am NOT a violent person.

I think you have gotten some invaluable advice here from all of your friends. It is up to you to decide your next step but you know I am here for you to support you in anyway I can!!
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Meowrus, I'm so sorry about what happened. These people sound really cruel. Whatever you decide to do, we all support you.
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Old 11-06-2009, 10:04 PM   #1137
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Meow you are getting good advice. Document, document, document. Make sure that you meet with this woman, and her supervisor. There is no reason for things like this to happen, but they do grrrrrrr.
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meows- that's horrible no one deserves that kind of attention. sounds like this person isn't cut out for this job. hugs to you and your daughter. I'd send her pet a gift if i knew or note to brighten her day if i knew user id.

my daughter is sick. been stressing over it. even call doctor and told me what to look out for. she had a high fever tonight and was basically miserable yet oddly cooperative and verbal about her needs. she repeatedly told me she loved me and she don't normally do that expect if i start it. can't sleep cause i'm being worry wart.

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Thank you everyone. My daughter JUST went to bed. She didn't want to leave me to go up to bed. I am exhausted LOL and she just kept forcing herself awake.

We tried to get a hold of some agencies today, but no luck. We also tried to get a hold of the superintendent's office, but they screen all calls with the voice-mail (tell you anything about this district?)

We told him (on the voice-mail) that this woman abused our daughter, that she is not to be anywhere near our daughter, and that we will be calling back again and again, until this matter is resolved.

Thank you all so much for your support. How did I not do the violence? Seeing the horror on my daughter's face and in a hear-beat knowing how it would be if I got taken away from her right after something like that happened to her.

Trust me, my hands were in fists and ready to go, but I will not be made the 'irrational one' by the school because of what she did. I will be the one who raised h-e-hockey sticks that a learning support teacher is emotionally abusing students.

We have not heard back from the head of learning support for the district. She was in the school today to 'deal with the matter'. I had 'related' all to her yesterday and hubby emailed her last night to let her know that our daughter would NOT be in school today and why. We got a response this morning that she would be in daughter's school at 9:30 and she would let us know.

Still waiting.

Ms. Buzz- I might just drive up for one of the days,if you don't mind, and try to de-compress with you.

Trust me, I will keep you all updated. As the weekend is starting my BP and anxiety are rising exponentially because I do NOT want her to go to school on Monday if that waste of a human form is still in the school.

Hubby does not want us to have this on TV, although I think it would be better to get that bad 'press' about the school, he wants us to have an attorney and go after the teacher and then the school. He is a mild person- as you know I am Ms. Buzz- but you don't do something like this to any child, let alone our child.
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Oh meows. That's terrible! I'm so glad your taking serious action about this!

Mom's having some fights with the school about my brothers also.

And I love all the costumes posted! Wish I could post mine, but the hat got bent while I was out trick-or-treating!
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