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Old 11-20-2008, 09:18 PM   #1
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Default Fall Room Design Contest on kinzvillenews.com

okay, so in the rules for this contest, which as you can guess is a fall-themed room, it says

Residents of the Province of Quebec, States of New York and Florida are excluded from participation in this Contest.

does this mean that if you live in one of those 3 places that you cannot enter? how do they know if you live there, anyway? ???

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oh and by the way, here's the link for the rules for the contest. http://www.kinzvillenewz.com/wp-mu/contests/#

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Old 11-21-2008, 10:29 PM   #2
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Default Re: Fall Room Design Contest on kinzvillenews.com

I can't get to anything but the homepage on that site. Now, GANZ is coppying WI! And yes, if you live in those areas you can't enter.
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Old 11-22-2008, 02:45 PM   #3
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that is a good point on how would they know, but when you sign up, it asks you where you live!
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Old 11-23-2008, 12:58 PM   #4
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Why those places? I live in one of them! That is not fair!
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Old 11-23-2008, 02:19 PM   #5
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I could tell you how they know where you live but I'm not going to just in case someone gets "ideas" about internet security.

They can tell where your servers are and from there, if you give anyone other pieces of info about you, they can easily find you. That is why, as nice as you want to be to your internet friends you should never give out your name or what school you go to. Even if you trust the person you are giving it to, there are lots of ways for others to view what you write on Forums... for instance, I can go to your Profile and read every post and thread you make. I can get bits of info about one person. It is scary so just be careful.

Once they know what your name is, they can find you because they don't need to search the whole country or state... they search a city. For you high schoolers, there are not that many HS in a given city so it's especially important not to give out identifying information.

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Old 11-25-2008, 06:00 PM   #6
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ugggggggg so not fair why would they exclude those people and how again would they know that you live there?
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Old 11-27-2008, 05:00 AM   #7
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I don't think the form for uploading a picture is working right. It's lagging and takes forever for the window to pop up. When it finally loads, I can select my picture, but it leaves it blank. If I click SUBMIT, it tells me to select an image.
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Old 11-27-2008, 01:35 PM   #8
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ugggggggg so not fair why would they exclude those people and how again would they know that you live there?
They know from your IP address. They can tell where your servers are... or the general vicinity.
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Old 12-10-2008, 02:48 AM   #9
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First of all, the reason they exclude those areas: They, or their lawyers, believe that the laws of those states (or province) do not allow the type of contest or prize they are having. They have to put that restriction on the contest so that they don't get in trouble with the Attorney General of the state in question (or whoever is in a similar position in Quebec).

Second: Will they check to see that you are really not from one of those areas if you enter or win? Almost certainly not. The reason they put that notice there is so that if they are sued they can say "hey, we said that they can't play, it's not our fault that those rascally citizens of your state (or province) won't follow the rules." There are (arcane and legal that I am not going to explain) reasons why they would actually want to keep themselves in the dark as to whether you are a citizen of one of the prohibited areas.

Could they find out where you live? Sort of. There are ways to find out your location by using the information your computer gives them when your computer talks to their computer. However, that information can also be faked, and they sure don't want to get into the business of investigating that nonsense. What they want is a nice little sign they can point to so they can say they set the rules and it is not their fault someone went and broke them. Their interest is not in excluding people, it is in protecting themselves from legal action.

Now, there would be times where a sign like that would have more real force behind it. In certain adult oriented businesses where the law is more likely to come down hard on them, they might go to greater lengths to exclude citizens of an area that they were concerned about. Also, if a tangible prize was going to be delivered to your house they would enforce that restriction. In other words, if the prize was a Playstation, they would not ship it to Quebec.

Although I am a lawyer, do not take any of this as legal advice. I have not researched the issues involved, just given my off the top of the head thoughts.
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I am sorry that some areas are excluded, but this time it is not WW's fault. Nor do I feel that WW is strictly trying to cover themselves for the purpose of a potiential lawsuit. Following the laws is the right thing to do. And they are not in control of the fact that these laws were past for the excluded areas. So I feel that blaming WW is not fair.
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